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Post by Annihilation Nation on Jan 11, 2019 2:37:05 GMT
www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2019/tournamentid=2019010/teetimes/index.html#This is the entry list for this tournament but this is not the final field. To be honest this is far more Euro leaning than I thought it was going to be. I am thinking for fairness we are going to have to allow at least a couple of players for each team to be used just for this tourney. I am taking just the top three players on each teams roster page and whether or not they are on the list. Further down everyone's list it is not going to get better. Of those 30 players only 5 are on the entry list. That is not good Fellas. We might have to have a little talk. Sysiphus Woods - No Mickelson - No Horschel - No Sand Rage Koepka - Yes P Reed - No K Bradley - No Sub Seventy Rory McIlroy - No W Simpson - No Schauffele - No Old Yellow Balls J Thomas - No DeChambeau - No K Tway - No Sea Island Mafia Matsuyama - No Woodland - No Molinari - No Off Course D Johnson - Yes Oosthuizen - Yes Garcia - No The Purple Rod of Truth Day - No Finau - No Casey - No Weekend Hackers Rose - No Fowler - No Stenson - Yes Enough Pars Spieth - No B Watson - No Leishman - No Imploded on Impact Rahm - No Fleetwood - Yes Hossler - No
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Post by Annihilation Nation on Jan 11, 2019 2:41:19 GMT
At this point I would not necessarily add players to your roster just for this event until we figure out what we are going to do. If anyone has added a player to their roster just because of this event in one of your 14-16 slots I may consider allowing a cancellation of the transaction. It depends on what we decide.
In all honesty I think allowing everyone to pick up at least 3 players seems like a fair policy, or even just allowing everyone to pick up as many as it takes to fill a starting lineup. Tonight I am kind of regretting the idea of this tourney but we will see what the full field ends up looking like. I don't think in any way would it be appropriate to do away with it at this point after the rules have been set.
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Post by Sand Rage on Jan 11, 2019 3:15:29 GMT
Well if you think we need more players than I’m fine with a limited player add for this tournament as long as they’re dropped right after
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Post by Sand Rage on Jan 11, 2019 3:16:51 GMT
Problem is,is that going to be done by draft or is it going to be a free for all
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Post by Sand Rage on Jan 11, 2019 4:06:30 GMT
Personally I’d like to see it left as is for this year and we can use it as a learning curve,everyone knew it was on the list this year so those that may have picked extra euros shouldn’t be penalized for thinking ahead,that’s fantasy sports right? I’ll go with whatever is decided but I think if you want extra players for this event than you should add them with your $5 adds or do a drop add ,if you don’t have enough spare cash in your cap then you shouldn’t have spent so much right? It’s all strategy
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Post by Sea Island Mafia on Jan 11, 2019 4:37:33 GMT
I'm not placing any blame on adding this event to the schedule...or not adding to your roster thinking of this event.
I figured I had at least one golfer in this... Molinari who won the British, and finished FIRST in the RACE TO DUBAI last yr. And he's not in the field. Joke.
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Post by Annihilation Nation on Jan 11, 2019 4:42:00 GMT
There was an issue when we decided to go with this event. When it was thrown out there the idea or whether or not teams would be able to add players free of charge for just this event was not decided on but was discussed. I also brought up the idea of having 2 roster spots reserved for this event and the
majors. People didn't like that. We never really decided if there was going to be free adds for this tourney only so it was hard to base a strategy on what to do without knowing if we were going to allow free adds or not (which still hasn't really been decided).
Unfortunately this year we have had to fly by the seat of our pants a bit and make things up as we have gone. I hate having to do that but things had to be done out of necessity and we had to adapt.
I obviously would like more discussion but here is my initial thought. Regardless of how many golfers each team have in that field I think we should allow each team 3 free adds that have to be drops at the end of the tourney free of cost. If someone wants to keep one of those golfers at the end of the tourney they can add them to their roster as an add/drop ($2.00 cost) for another golfer or they can use a $5.00 roster spot.
I would like to have the slow e-mail draft but it went very slowly before so we might just set a time, say Monday Night at 7PM Central as the deadline and have a free for all where everyone can add three golfers.
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Post by Sea Island Mafia on Jan 11, 2019 4:46:35 GMT
Personally I’d like to see it left as is for this year and we can use it as a learning curve,everyone knew it was on the list this year so those that may have picked extra euros shouldn’t be penalized for thinking ahead,that’s fantasy sports right? I’ll go with whatever is decided but I think if you want extra players for this event than you should add them with your $5 adds or do a drop add ,if you don’t have enough spare cash in your cap then you shouldn’t have spent so much right? It’s all strategy I agree with that. We all knew this event was on the schedule...and to those that planned/drafted for it....kudos, and should be duly rewarded. What a joke field, tho. |
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Post by Sea Island Mafia on Jan 11, 2019 4:53:24 GMT
There was an issue when we decided to go with this event. When it was thrown out there the idea or whether or not teams would be able to add players free of charge for just this event was not decided on but was discussed. I also brought up the idea of having 2 roster spots reserved for this event and the majors. People didn't like that. We never really decided if there was going to be free adds for this tourney only so it was hard to base a strategy on what to do without knowing if we were going to allow free adds or not (which still hasn't really been decided). Unfortunately this year we have had to fly by the seat of our pants a bit and make things up as we have gone. I hate having to do that but things had to be done out of necessity and we had to adapt. I obviously would like more discussion but here is my initial thought. Regardless of how many golfers each team have in that field I think we should allow each team 3 free adds that have to be drops at the end of the tourney free of cost. If someone wants to keep one of those golfers at the end of the tourney they can add them to their roster as an add/drop ($2.00 cost) for another golfer or they can use a $5.00 roster spot. I would like to have the slow e-mail draft but it went very slowly before so we might just set a time, say Monday Night at 7PM Central as the deadline and have a free for all where everyone can add three golfers. Commish, don't feel bad or apologize. It is, what it is, and we're all complicit. I like your idea of 3 free adds. The owners that have thought ahead to this tourney, will still maintain that advantage. I'm less sure about the logistics of free for all/snake.... but that's me. |
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Post by SubSeventy on Jan 11, 2019 5:54:11 GMT
I’ll type more later as it’s late and after I think on things, I might have more of an idea.. I have 3 in the tourney, RCB, Wallace and Li.
I would certainly like to at least have 2 more for a full roster but I tend to lean with Dan and Rich that we all knew the rules ahead of time. Certainly didn’t expect a weak field but is what it is.
I do recall proposing the couple “free” adds during the winter months as well and I can support that too. I wouldn’t go all the way up to 3, I think I leaned 2 initially and would suggest that.
If we do go that route, they would be dropped automatically at the end of the tournament unless an owner chooses to keep them on their roster and pay the appropriate fee.
Also, if we do that route, what if we did a hybrid type snake/FCFS where we post the pickups in the forum, so there is a time stamp. It is first come first served but we do it for one guy at a time. Once everyone has added one guy. Then we set a time for the second adds. Like the FCFS entries for player 1 start at noon on Saturday. You have to submit your first pick by 3:00. At 3:00, the second waive of FCFS adds happens and it is open for 3 hours again. 6:00 you can add your third player. If you miss, that’s on you but you CANNOT add multiple players until everyone has had a chance to add one.
I don’t know, just throwing darts...haha
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Post by Annihilation Nation on Jan 11, 2019 8:29:09 GMT
Ryan I do like your idea with picking different times for each golfer. As far as the rules go to a point we knew the rules but on the other hand those that voted on having the Euro event could have very well likely voted on it assuming there may be a couple of free pickups. A lot of grey area here. I am actually ok however it goes. I have a little extra money for roster moves so I am ok with or without these free moves. If we don't have free moves I think we are going to be seeing quite a few 2 or 3 man starting lineups for this one and if that is how it is than so be it.
I think we can all agree that this entry list is a Shrock of Crit. The U.S. Tour attracts many more foreigners than the Euro Tour attracts U.S. players. I can't really blame the U.S. players. Who wants to fly thousand of miles to play on a pasture. Maybe that is why the U.S. team barely ever wins the Ryder Cup anymore because the Red White and Blue doesn't practice links golf as often.
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Post by offcourse on Jan 11, 2019 16:13:36 GMT
I think regardless of what we do there will be some that benefit and some that don't. As long as everyone is okay with that going IN. Vs getting angry at the end. I recall these tournaments and it did seem like a lot of the big name players played over there. But, maybe it was not this particular tournament??? Not sure. I did pick up Lee Westwood because he was in teh field. But, I would have picked him up anyway for just the majors he plays in. The bigger issue I see, even with a draft, is how big of an advantage or disadvantage it will be based on whether you are first or last. With such a limited number of players in the field for any given tournament.........if you pick first out of maybe 40 players available (or however many there will be), that is a huge advantage over the person picking 10th out of those same 40 players. Especially since many of us won't have ever heard of players at the bottom of those 40 available. I mean we see this in the snake draft if you are first or last. And that is a much larger pool of players to choose from. That somewhat sums up the challenge of adding a euro tour event. If you dn't follow the tour and we have very little idea of the field until a week prior.........it will be hard to make adding any of those events fairly. That said.........I'm okay with whatever is decided. LOL Also......WTF Sergio?! why is he not in this field?  |
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Post by offcourse on Jan 11, 2019 16:19:18 GMT
Here is the field Note the big red line about half way down. looks like anyone below that may or may not have a spot. Abu Dhabi Field |
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Post by greenjacksixpack on Jan 11, 2019 21:06:04 GMT
I think I have six guys in this thing. I DID add Levy in regards to this tourney...( as was my attempt to add Lowry prior). I like Levy as it is...so was not a huge stretch, especially with my particular ways -- but since you mentioned it, I did add him at least now for that purpose. Don't know what you will decide to do pertaining to those who added an extra guy or so for that purpose...
By the way Eric...caught the pasture reference...play nice...lol. There are many beautiful courses all around the world, and actually IMO one of the best things about the Golf Channel is that you get to see these courses often with their Euro coverage. Some...yeah ok..maybe are "pasture" in comparison to the Florida courses you like so much...but many are very high level courses that would be high level here both in its upkeep as well as challenges.
Anyway...I WILL add the Desert ones at the beginning of the year on the Euro tour are never my own personal favorites...especially woith all the places they go covering four continents and such. That said...are we dividing guys between two tournaments...or who exactly will the overall points be registered for this unique week?
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Post by Sand Rage on Jan 11, 2019 21:14:47 GMT
I believe we put a lineup in for both events.
As for drafting especially for this tournament,I’ve used two draft picks and n the euro events by picking Sharma in the draft and using one of my $5 picks for Aaron Rai,I still think if people want extra players for this event then they should also have to pay,this instance is exactly what salary cap pools are about,if you spend extra in the draft to be a little stronger with your lineup then you have to give it up somewhere
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